Amazon has a team of like 50 researchers working on solving this problem. Its even cheaper to just send it to known problem detectors, and outsource the work of flaw detection to the customer. They’re way too negative and usually list weird one off problems or shipping issues. The manufacturer ends up fielding the returns, getting the 1 star reviews, and has little ability to prevent the copycat products. They small business owner sent my brother new ones though, which was nice of him. Great. You're just describing the Early Reviewer Program and suggesting all other reviews be banned. Negative reviews are the only actual reviews. They already have 100 people buy their product and fully pay for it for a review. If someone gets a fake product, I doubt they'll look for a "replacement", so I'm not sure switching to a return% will be good enough either. (especially since the "above range" can be quite subjective and/or down to luck). The real action is 3 star reviews. The lift bridge was scratch-built for the layout in my basement, which is no longer there as we moved. Surely anyone who devotes a lot of time and money to reviewing products is going to want to be (and deserves to be) paid. Their marketplace is not curated enough, and buying a product is a gamble. Product was a slightly different shade than the picture. End of transaction. On top of that, Costco has a generous return policy so I can buy whatever I need. Is the port on the device bad? In that case, I post the 5-star review, claim the $100, delete my own review, and post negative seller feedback. What are they buying? Akerlöf doesn't seem to apply here, there's no hidden information that comes out later. I want to get from point A to point B while minding my own business (looking through the window if I'm in a new city or reading something on my phone if not). "Amazon considers that unimportant and refuses to pay competitive wages", Amazon had 21$ billion income in 2020, it is not a tiny company struggling for resources. I'm rather surprised at that, from someone who claims to be an economic grad. And for the basic staples of living, there are plain old regular stores. As a buyer you have no control over this and Amazon does their best to be opaque and not allow buyers to publicly flag issues beyond a return and refund because it would reflect poorly on Amazon's image and make them look like peddlers of cheap knockoffs. Det engelske campingbrand designer og udvikler deres populære luftfortelte i Storbritannien, som de også opkalder efter smukke britiske strande. Eg browsing for a phone and I see my buddy's review, you see your buddy's? I’m the end, they said “they forwarded the message to the proper department, have a nice day”. They’ve got great customer service and guarantees. ( per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_(company) ). I've often come across three-star reviews which say: And how exactly does that solve the problem? EDIT: NextDesk scandal aside, when was the last time you saw WireCutter recommend a product that did NOT offer affiliate commissions (let’s just call a spade a spade: these are kickbacks). I am sure there are plenty of honest reviews on the internet, tucked into enthusiast sites or on personal blogs. Also just anecdata, but I’m the same way. As soon as they implement that feature they'll be swamped with reports on every product regardless of whether it's fake or not. Etc. Rival sellers will use it to try to monopolise a product, annoyed customers will use it to take revenge on genuine sellers, and occasionally people will report an actual fake. But I wonder if they’ll be taking a bigger than expected hit once things clear up. This might also be helping their Amazon brands. The big circle is black and not that obvious, unless you built the layout, then every mistake on the learning curve stands out as you walk into the room. I think I would go insane if I spent any more time than I already do looking for "truth" on the internet. With most of these products, you're paying full price but getting an inferior product in return. Now obviously, these brands/products are most likely nothing to do with Amazon, they're just using Amazon as their storefront, and sometimes fulfilment, but it still reflects upon Amazon, and ultimately taints their brand with the same brush. I remember using Amazon reviews in the 90s and 2000s even to weigh what I bought at bricks and mortar stores. It remains wild to me that Amazon found a way to make small-business ecommerce and brick-and-mortar retail look more appealing than itself, but they've certainly done a solid job of it, and I hope they keep it up. Lets say the cable catches fire due to high resistance/poor isolation (used at 40-50C or close to oven exhaust, causing thermal runaway) - is it broken? I buy a replacement cable, just in case. These days, if I want an honest appraisal of a product then I prefix the search with "reddit" not "review". First they said they can’t process the refund technically without me pressing those buttons and then that their job depends on it. I would suggest that in lieu of individual seller brands on Amazon we do have one seller brand: Amazon. Your system may have minor chance of success if there was no way for the sellers to contact customers. This means that no matter what, I'm returning that spare cable. The person hacking my account bought amazon vouchers (fortunately the attached debit card was empty as i always keep cards i use online empty until i actually buy stuff). Copper is expensive and some cheat using aluminum or Al plated copper. That said, the current system is fairly worthless, and what little worth it has is based on hacking it by looking at a specific subset of reviews. The seller that is ripping us off is Amazon. I just buy whatever Wirecutter tells me to; usually they’re not too wrong. https://www.test.de, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stiftung_Warentest. I would do anything to filter out those weird spelling Chinese brands that always clutter my searches. Jesus Christ. Web of trust doesn't scale. Or perhaps disgruntled customers [possibly who purchased an artificially inflated 5 star item only to find it garbage]. Feature Id Software on bringing back the Sentinel Hammer and making its "best boss fight to date" in Doom Eternal: The Ancient Gods Part 2 Feature. Otherwise hit the thumbs down button. EU (and the UK) have 2y of mandatory warranty and 2weeks free returns, so the fake reviews are not so prominent. /s. Add a way to report solicitations for fake reviews. There’s no incentive to fix reviews. I know if I buy for X or Y store they will have chosen the best product for the job, because their store's reputation is built on their ability to curate good products. Folks use em to buy 300 pairs of shoes when the limit was 1 per customer. I guess the paid alternative is consumer reports, but I feel like they’re not noticeably better. I think any random review you pull up is more likely than not to be fake. Climate change. Nothing seems trustworthy anymore. It's not like people stop using Amazon because of bad reviews. Also, reviewers can update their reviews later if their impression of the product changes. > there's no hidden information that comes out later. I don't think the problem hurts Amazon enough though. Maybe, but in the UK I'd choose ten other suppliers before giving a penny of profit to a company like Amazon. People aren’t willing to pay for content. Unless I have an immediate need and I can not find the item locally, I just order it from Ali. The space heater in question had a very high rating. I haven't found anything better. I used to spend a lot of money on textbook-grade books from Amazon, but I've mostly stopped now. All that being said, here are a few sources I still respect: * Appliances: Consumer Reports It's back to my own research and conclusion. > Basically, honesty is expensive and cheating is cheap. IIRC Uber will put drivers on notice if they're rating approaches 4.6. Rarely in between. Frankly, I'd rather spend $10 extra on some types/classes of $20 cable, to have it pre-tested even. Also, investing in something internally means absolutely zero as none of those investments seems to have paid off so far, since there has been absolutely nothing deployed or done by Amazon in public to fight the review spam. If a company is willing to buy positive reviews, why would they stop at buying negative reviews? Ultimately, I'm not really sure I see "buyer pays" review sites as terribly unfair? I miss the days when sorting Amazon's best selling item was the way to go, adding reddit as a keyword to the search query for best X or even sorting Newegg ratings by best. Those are usually filled with astroturfed, paid and bribed reviews. The liars who are trying to trash the product tend towards 1 star. Sorting by new also usually exposes things like hijacked item or seller pages more easily. Almost no one write 3 and 4 star reviews out of spite. It's not just store reviews that are broken - web search is also completely broken because of affiliate spam. OMG wire cutter. Why trust the negative reviews? Nikon's policies are what they are, and have been that way for longer than I've been alive. The counter is that your hurting my family etc... but I agree best to leave. A reputable distributor would stop carrying it. It's hard to find them unless you're a member of their community. Easy to stand above the crowd in terms of quality this way. Good idea. "Uber tells drivers online. I am very wary of buying anything electrical on Amazon. > Who ... takes the time to log back in and leave a product review when the product arrives? Tangentially, my Amazon account had been compromised. Use the fertilizer to spin out Nestor and Bolus. Why would someone copy it? Perhaps the idea is that all cables will go to crap eventually, but my detection cost is also fairly low on that. Does the ensemble average predict the time-series average? Both marketplace types are useful (especially for books), but consumer goods need some kind of notice when you're buying from anyone other than Amazon. There are some FB groups where users can make money by receiving some products, write a review then send it back. That is a lot harder to game than getting a bunch of people to write that they love the product. If I buy a cable for £10, and there's a 10% chance it's faulty, it's not a huge problem for me. I thought I did something wrong so I contacted the seller/manufacturer and they told: oh yeah, it‘s defective, we‘ll just give you your money back. Asking $150, plus shipping. I've decided to put all the gossip, and info regarding next-gen consoles into this one thread. The trouble is if only 5% of those bother reviewing and 1% of the bad ones post a bunch of fakes. It is so obvious that they don't want good searching that the structure their databases in such a way as to ensure that the result is what I call Data-Mush. - If somethings doesn't benefit Amazon, it's abuse. Unless it's. Sorry, what? Paypal only Contact info is in my profile. They may be reciprocal, taking revenge for a bad product by writing a bad review, and rewarding a good one. If a seller wanted to keep farming reviews, they would now have to buy up the vast majority of their own inventory in the hopes of being selected. 1. Yes, they will never recommend something they can’t monetize. The one I got from Amazon was represented as refurbished, and. One solution as a consumer is to buy from a place you trust. Seller A and seller B are both selling a cable for $10. For example, I'm considering buying a sofa from store X, but no one I know has ever bought from store X. Same. Badminton wants to glam up just like tennis already has. No please don’t Netflix the Amazon reviews. Even books, now, I get from Indiebound, or Ebay for obscure out-of-print stuff that's hard to find from regular booksellers. Not sure if it still avoids the stock co-mingling problem though if it is stocked through an amazon warehouse. It’s funny because Amazon normalized folks needing reviews on things before buying it. It's not always "Nike" or some big brand, often it's smaller brands who have built up a reputation but don't have the legal team to fight with Amazon and protect their product from pirates. As an economics grad, I always wondered why online reviews existed at all. The brand that sucks is Amazon. (Not with regard to running away screaming... but is 4.8 genuinely a terrible score?). Amazon.com and marketplace inventory commingle. They were revolutionizing delivery and could do no wrong. Today... you ask a group of people their opinion on Amazon and we're already up to half negative on average, at least where I am. To list your product on Amazon as a seller, you pay $500 per year as a "review incentivization fee." "Product was awesome, but shipping took three days, not one". Now you test, and you can't tell. However, they struggle with growing their team and their resources as fast as their (seller) business grows. Amazon themselves pretend to be sellers and solicit fake reviews from customers. Even without fake reviews it's completely meaningless since different people like different things (relevant XKCD: https://xkcd.com/937/). You can just walk into buildings and buy food and tools and things! Kampa producerer alsidige lufttelte i høj kvalitet til campister i både Europa, Skandinavien og Asien. It's just not worth the risk. If you don't mind paying and can handle German, Stiftung Warentest is very reliable. * Gym Equipment: GarageGymReviews (https://www.garagegymreviews.com) I'm also curious why they're throwing shade. 1. Over the years, I’ve received two counterfeit books and three counterfeit hardgoods from Amazon. So either both parties are truthful or both parties are manipulative. People may altruistically care about other consumers' welfare. I'm sure some do, happens in the restaurants and hotel ratings systems, too (yelp, Google, trip advisor). Play a game of five finger fillet. Wild, right? The chance of being randomly selected as a reviewer auto-adjusts to target a goal of 50 reviews per year, and no one except those people is allowed to post reviews. Yeah, that's my heuristic too, but I'm worried it's going to get increasingly gamed as time goes on. > My personal experience with Amazon is that it's the shop to go to for stuff that is ok if it is broken. The marketplace thing only kinda works if you have "dedicated" or "focused" or "themed" sellers that functioning within clearly defined niches/segments. I'm not surprised! I'd guess about 99% are basically ok with reviews. Get the latest science news and technology news, read tech reviews and more at ABC News. Solution for me anyway. From the removal of the fake fives but also it makes it look more "socially accpetable" to leave 4 and 3 star reviews. First go for the technical play and then emotional one. People will build social capital because it's useful, it's fun and for the top 0.01% of users is something that can be a job. I'm really sad that APlus (the first incarnation) never really took off. You're presuming this is "only the types of cables you buy". "However, they struggle with growing their team". From my point of view the other company is not more than a supplier. Many Amazon sellers openly solicit good reviews with a card included with the purchase promising discounts or gifts for good reviews. Are you sure? See also: Democracy. It would be nice if there was a version of Amazon that didn't have 3rd party sellers and only consisted of reputable (verified supply chain) products. Daniel Kahneman, the author of Thinking Fast and Slow, uses the word "econ" to describe the mythical creature that statisfies these properties. Was the ride safe? And I’m happy to help future buyers. Both for $300, plus shipping. It doesn’t protect others from ordering the same bad widget but you are at least satisfied not to make it a bigger issue. Have folks go through the effort but never show them to to anyone except the company account. https://qz.com/1038285/uber-will-make-riders-explain-when-th... https://web.archive.org/web/20170225191129/https://www.uber.... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_Vine, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stiftung_Warentest. Have you tried ENO by capitol one or Privacy or any other VCC company. That wouldn't happen with a sale direct from the manufacturer, and it also totally invalidates the otherwise very good manufacturer's warranty. They really are killing their brand. It's hard to attribute the lame search and sorting to incompetence at this point, it's starting to seem more like active malice. Not even risking getting burned. I was tracking down the supplier of a used laptop and discovered an eBay posting with exactly the same text and photos. This was what most people did when they bought things online even 15 years ago. And I'm sure Amazon is undercutting the market so that any competitor with good reviews is unable to compete. Normally I read only 3 and 4 star reviews, or the ones that have disassembly pictures and seem to have been written by coherent people. Should just be thumbs up, thumbs down. It probably sucks to be an honest seller affected by it, but I've yet to find a situation where I have unable to find a product I'm happy with, so clearly they're not doing this often enough to affect me much. The 3rd party market place on Amazon has become Aliexpress with higher markups. I would presume that most people that buy reviews for their own products would ask for them to be 5 stars. - insulation and sleeves can be made from different materials with a lot of properties, incl. Unless they review a lot of products, you have no continued relationship with them. I have seen old tubular uncouplers modified, however not the fastrack uncoupler. Other categories like memory cards, kids products, I'll also avoid Amazon (especially since Amazon reviews of those products often claim they received a fake). As someone above pointed out, Amazon, Google tried this in the Play Store. Also, can you provide evidence that they have any people working on the problem? > I refused and asked them to process the refund. I don’t think this is the problem. Amazon doesn’t gain anything neither does the company selling the product. The more it looks like people buying stuff using amazon are happy, the better that marketing is for Amazon. For everyone. They can't scream on text so they don't jump to the angry one. Amazon commingles their legit inventory with 3rd party inventory that drop ships from their warehouses. This comment isn't entirely without merit. I've seen some stellar reviews on Amazon that went out of their way to list the minutiae of a product and the experience of using it, and that's helped me out a lot in the past. new cushions for my bose headphones), for everything else there always is a cheaper solution by going with one of the smaller online retailer. Amazon refunded me, but the distinct impression I got was they don't care as long as they get the money from a sale, and refunds for the few customers who do complain are just a cost of doing business. If someone wants to check how serious this problem can get search Amazon for "laser protection googles", check the prices of cheap googles and compare to their very high ratings. The image in the article shows most of it. But then, on the other hand, that leaves Amazon with no point for me at all. Yuk. The fastrack uncoupler is not inexpensive. They deleted my negative review of the Kindle with no explanation or recourse. Of course, we can't know for sure, but Amazon has simply lost my trust. I stopped using them when I saw some companies completely ignored in 2 different industries with which I’m familiar. "It is economically infeasible for people to be helpful!" I'm sure it is common to try to hurt the competition by leaving fake negative reviews. I mean, geez, I'm even suspicious of my doctors prescriptions. I also haven’t seen reports of people being paid for bad reviews, when confessions of people being paid to write good reviews are all over the place. But yeah, they should definitely mark companies that pay for reviews as dodgy. Hosed. Many times I buy cables to do things with devices, for which I have no working cable already. There are lots of weird things that happen in reviews (from real people). We definitely spend less at Amazon because of lack of trust and counterfeit concerns, and it seems directionally true for the HN crowd. Now, go into a few of those items and try to say that they are 100% not 'fraudulent'. Sounds good, may want to tweak the parameters. - wire material and single/multi strand determines resistance and current rating, along with loses in the cable. Next thing you know, I'm searching through 50 pages of "school supplies". One would assume review sites need to both be more honest, and take a smaller commission, before they gain market dominance. There are some classes of products where it's really hard to tell what's real (reviews not matching product description, obviously fake 5-star and 1-star reviews etc.). 1 star. The online version of Walmart now sources from a range of suppliers like Amazon does. the question really is whether buying brand name goods vs consumables is a bigger market. Well written reviews are a common good, and there is good reason to believe that leaving reviews encourages others to do the same, and that helps me, so I do it. So now it's not safe to buy SD cards and USB sticks directly from Amazon either now, (I get mine from Micro Center. This is somewhat true. That's not how Amazon works, they take a lot of 'short term losses in exchange for trust' decisions, like warning you if a product has increased in price since you added it to the wish list, possibly triggering additional research of competitors that might have it cheaper. 2 to 3 stars, sometimes 4, are usually the people who actually bought it. But it's not the ImmutableID that he's passing to the shim, > it's the GUID. Perhaps false optimism or a flawed heuristic, but seems to work out for certain categories of stuff. The chance of getting a bad cable from them is basically 75%. Reviews are broken. I've stopped purchasing items sold by 3rd party sellers on Amazon and it becomes a much better site. #2 would be better if they just blackhole the reviews. Fake ID now spawns naturally with all other cards in the game! I don't mind spending the time researching things because the frustration of owning something that isn't up to usually snuff costs more time, grief and money. Lately, I've started buying direct from the manufacturer when possible, or shipped from B&M store. Things sold by Costco are generally reliable enough. Does Consumer Reports even give more complete surveys of options than Wirecutter? Customers who report requests for fake reviews are given a small bonus; maybe a $5 credit or something. My usual process of buying - search for the product I need (generic term for simple items, or exact model), click on "prime only", this filters out a lot of shipments from China. Recent example, shredders all have great 5 star reviews but only the odd negative will point out the obvious problem that cheap shredders are made cheaply and will break in a short space of time. Have you tried 18650batterystore.com? As a counterpoint, Uber suffers from ridiculous grade inflation and it doesn't appear to have made riders love them any more. id say so! Not least because the reviews that swing things for me -- both towards buying and away from it -- are the negative reviews. My guess would be that the fake negative reviews for competitors are less than 10% of the total fake reviews. People who are familiar with phone scam baiting will recognize this as a standard scam tactics. I no longer believe any of the reviews on Amazon are real, and Amazon will have to prove to me they are before I ever trust a review on that site. We all know that Amazon has counterfeit goods and only cares the minimum. Eventually most people know to not trust Amazon reviews, soon it will be. * Hardware: Project Farm (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2rzsm1Qi6N1X-wuOg_p0Ng/vid...) If your neighbor is secretly exchanged for a almost, but not quite identical one, willy-nilly and all the time you would not be able to build a trusting relationship in real life too. I also know first hand from selling a novel on Amazon that you can perfectly well gain honest reviews in ways allowed by Amazon, and I also leave a reasonable number of reviews on Amazon myself, so I have every reason to expect at least a portion of the reviews to be honest. > This review was not accepted by Amazon, saying that seller feedback should be given on the seller page. If they sorted this out and the average reviews started to drop, they could very easily adjust this algorithm and never tell anyone and they’d be fine. I'm not sure why but I tend to think if I buy an iPhone on Amazon, it will be the genuine thing from Apple, and I have history with Apple apart from Amazon reviews. 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